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clinton as i said before, the rates under clinton did not have a bad effect on the economy. i agree if you're going to raise things up to 70% or take $5,000 from a middle class family, yeah, that's too much. but the tax rates that bill clinton had were pretty good for america. we need to balance this budget. i am not opposed to more spending cuts. i am not. i am not opposed -- i'm against cutting medicare benefits but i'm in favor of payment reform, which we desperately need to do to control costs. so we can do this. but i don't see any particularly harm other than we are going to go into a recession if we go over the slope. >> if you don't think tax rates matter, why is it that over the last 30 years when ronald reagan became president tax rates all over the world have fallen? they've fallen in europe, asia, south america. i mean, it's happening everywhere because countries want to [ overlapping speakers ] >> i have never said tax rates don't matter. [ overlapping speakers ] >> governor howard dean. >> i adegree, howard, we need stable tax rights. i agree with that. i'd jus
clinton as i said before, the rates under clinton did not have a bad effect on the economy. i agree if you're going to raise things up to 70% or take $5,000 from a middle class family, yeah, that's too much. but the tax rates that bill clinton had were pretty good for america. we need to balance this budget. i am not opposed to more spending cuts. i am not. i am not opposed -- i'm against cutting medicare benefits but i'm in favor of payment reform, which we desperately need to do to control...
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is probably not talking her out of it. >> bill clinton would love hillary clinton to be president. in fact, the fact that he was so magnanimous with president obama this past campaign was a miracle to a lot of us who covered hillary clinton in '08 because i think the president, bill clinton took his wife's loss harder than she did in that campaign against then senator obama. look, what i think is going to happen is hillary has all the cards to her. she is going to take a year off. she can sleep. she can write a book. she can do speaking appearances. she can be a mom to chelsea. >> maybe a grandmom. >> maybe a grandma. i don't know anything about that. and she can still decide to run. this is going to kill all these other democrats who are hoping to run because the field is frozen until she makes a decision. >> i want to talk to you about that, because you raise an interesting point there are a lot of folks who are suggesting one of the reasons we spend so much time talking about hillary ad nauseam is because there really aren't a whole lot of other democrats out there who could run
is probably not talking her out of it. >> bill clinton would love hillary clinton to be president. in fact, the fact that he was so magnanimous with president obama this past campaign was a miracle to a lot of us who covered hillary clinton in '08 because i think the president, bill clinton took his wife's loss harder than she did in that campaign against then senator obama. look, what i think is going to happen is hillary has all the cards to her. she is going to take a year off. she can...
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i haven't heard from madeleine albright, hillary clinton. she just kind of out there by herself which may be a message. >> i will keep watching that one and everything else. >> mark shield, david brooks, thanks as always. and if you want even more, mark and david keep up the talk on the "doubleheader" recorded in our newsroom. that will be posted at the top of the "rundown" later tonight. >> warner: we'll be back shortly with a look at efforts to pinpoint the age of the grand canyon. but first, this is pledge week on pbs. this break allows your public television station to ask for your support. >> warner: finally tonight, just how old is the grand canyon? the conventional wisdom holds that this natural wonder of the world was shaped by the colorado about five or six million years ago. but there's been a long-running debate over whether it's much older. yesterday, researchers published a study in the journal "science," arguing these majestic formations were formed by two much older rivers cutting through the landscape some 70 million years ag
i haven't heard from madeleine albright, hillary clinton. she just kind of out there by herself which may be a message. >> i will keep watching that one and everything else. >> mark shield, david brooks, thanks as always. and if you want even more, mark and david keep up the talk on the "doubleheader" recorded in our newsroom. that will be posted at the top of the "rundown" later tonight. >> warner: we'll be back shortly with a look at efforts to pinpoint...
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i haven't heard from madeleine albright, hillary clinton. she just kind of out there by herself which may be a message. >> i will keep watching that one and everything else. >> mark shield, david brooks, thanks as always. and if you want even more, mark and david keep up the talk on the "doubleheader" recorded in our newsroom. that will be posted at the top of the "rundown" later tonight. >> warner: we'll be back shortly with a look at efforts to pinpoint the age of the grand canyon. but first, this is pledge week on pbs. this break allows your public television station to ask for yousupport. and that support helps keep programs like ours on the air. >> brown: for those stations not taking a pledge break, we take an encore look at president abraham lincoln and his evolving legacy in politics and culture. earlier this year, hari sreenivasan toured the ford's theatre center for education and leadership in washington, d.c., with historian richard norton smith. >> sreenivasan: walking into the theater center is like tang a step back in time to t
i haven't heard from madeleine albright, hillary clinton. she just kind of out there by herself which may be a message. >> i will keep watching that one and everything else. >> mark shield, david brooks, thanks as always. and if you want even more, mark and david keep up the talk on the "doubleheader" recorded in our newsroom. that will be posted at the top of the "rundown" later tonight. >> warner: we'll be back shortly with a look at efforts to pinpoint...
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americans, many of whom themselves are happy to pay a slightly higher rate the way we did when president clinton was president. >> mary is shaking her head and i am, too. i traveled enough in the far east to know you bargain appropriately with respect. you don't come in knowing that something's laughable. mary -- >> so wait. i don't travel in the far east. you think people should just give up on their principles and the things they campaigned for? >> no, but i think you do have to bargain from a position of respect. mary, is this something that was so disrespectful that you can't even counter, the republicans can't even counterbargain here? >> here's what -- i don't know why the republicans are so surprised. i myself was offended and felt disrespected yesterday because the working framework, the intellectual working framework, erskine from the bowles/simpson, from domenici/rivlin going all the way back was a basic framework of $3 of savings for $1 of revenues. we get it. it's the opening bid. but we thought the opening bid would at least be in the framework of this planet that we're dealing in.
americans, many of whom themselves are happy to pay a slightly higher rate the way we did when president clinton was president. >> mary is shaking her head and i am, too. i traveled enough in the far east to know you bargain appropriately with respect. you don't come in knowing that something's laughable. mary -- >> so wait. i don't travel in the far east. you think people should just give up on their principles and the things they campaigned for? >> no, but i think you do...
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administration and was one of the first big catches who was not for hillary clinton back in the primary, barack obama remembers. >> molly ball, before i let you guys get out of here. if this thing does play out like some does suspect and john kerry ends up getting nominated to run the pentagon, that makes for a very interesting senate race in the state of massachusetts, once again. >> maybe, maybe not. what people keep forgetting in all of this is that the massachusetts legislature is run by democrats who could always just change the law back so that there's not a special election and it becomes an appointment, again. yes, some dominos falling in massachusetts if senator kerry gets that post, particularly if there is an election, which is the state of the law right now. scott brown expected to run for it and about as strong a republican as you can get in the state of massachusetts. >> molly ball, thank you so much. lynn sweet, one of my favorite ladies. lynn, i did not get to ask you about your jesse jackson, but i would encourage folks to read on what you wrote over gesjesse jackson jr
administration and was one of the first big catches who was not for hillary clinton back in the primary, barack obama remembers. >> molly ball, before i let you guys get out of here. if this thing does play out like some does suspect and john kerry ends up getting nominated to run the pentagon, that makes for a very interesting senate race in the state of massachusetts, once again. >> maybe, maybe not. what people keep forgetting in all of this is that the massachusetts legislature...
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, that i could go back to knot the use of the filibuster, but other methods of obstruction with the clintons who reached out all the time. so i think that is a factor, but a minor one. i think harry reid use of filling the amendment tree and partly this is chicken and egg, but it's been done too much and that did result in at least some protest and willingness some senators on his side who might not otherwise join in some of these filibusters to do so. but it had much more to do with a concerted party strategy, which is really the first time we've seen it. >> i think there's two separate issues. one obstruction on nomination in two, obstruction on the legislative side. on the nomination cited is true you see these judge those conoco 99 to one. i think it's important to remember what we are talking about. the alternative is to move it by unanimous consent. this is not like the house where there's about. if a member of checks to unanimous consent because they do not want to vote or be forced to vote for a judge within the main support, they say i will have a roll call. the majority leader at t
, that i could go back to knot the use of the filibuster, but other methods of obstruction with the clintons who reached out all the time. so i think that is a factor, but a minor one. i think harry reid use of filling the amendment tree and partly this is chicken and egg, but it's been done too much and that did result in at least some protest and willingness some senators on his side who might not otherwise join in some of these filibusters to do so. but it had much more to do with a...
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, but i could go back to knot the use of the filibuster, but other methods of instruction with bill clinton's who reached out all the time. so i think that's a factor, but a minor one. i think kerry reads use of filling the amendment tree, partly this is chicken and egg, but is been done too much and that could result in at least some protests and willingness of some senators on his side you might not otherwise join some of these filibusters to do so. but it had much more to do with a concerted party strategy, which i think it's really the first time we've seen it. >> i think there's two separate issues. one obstruction on nomination and to come the obstructions on the legislative. on the nomination site, it is true you see these judge votes and they happen to go 992.one. it's important to remember what we are talking about. the alternative to that is to move it by unanimous consent. this is not like the house for thursday though. the member objects unanimous consent because they do not want to vote or don't want to be forced to vote for a judge with whom they may disagree but support, they s
, but i could go back to knot the use of the filibuster, but other methods of instruction with bill clinton's who reached out all the time. so i think that's a factor, but a minor one. i think kerry reads use of filling the amendment tree, partly this is chicken and egg, but is been done too much and that could result in at least some protests and willingness of some senators on his side you might not otherwise join some of these filibusters to do so. but it had much more to do with a concerted...
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the rate held steady at 10% through the clinton and bush years and then plummeted when democrats took control of congress in 2007. that is due in no small part to the filibuster. it's mutated to a routine impediment to legislative progress. it has turned congress into a body incapable of acting except in times of crises. it's just like the fiscal cliff right now. this was designed to force congress to deal with the deficit. now senate majority leader harry reid is proposing changes to the filibuster that might make senate lesseesy. right now senators can block motions to proceed which means the senate can't even debate the legislation in question. president obama realizing the stakes for his second term agenda endorsed those changes on tuesday. white house communications director dan pfeiffer said in a state, the president supports sen tor reid's reform the filibuster. he has a chance to change the filibuster with a 51% majority. he is getting close to getting that majority. republicans, meanwhile, are apoplectic. mitch mcconnell has accused reid of throwing a bomb into the senate. jo
the rate held steady at 10% through the clinton and bush years and then plummeted when democrats took control of congress in 2007. that is due in no small part to the filibuster. it's mutated to a routine impediment to legislative progress. it has turned congress into a body incapable of acting except in times of crises. it's just like the fiscal cliff right now. this was designed to force congress to deal with the deficit. now senate majority leader harry reid is proposing changes to the...
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as part of clinton administration, they turned down from the sudanese government to arrest o lad bad. >> she is unable to admit she was wrong. she had taken a position that led to escape of a man that ultimately killed 3,000 americans. >> rice my also face trouble from the left. not because of her diplomatic record but because of her financial one. a group that she and her husband are said to be worth $20 million. they also hone oen a stock that is trying to build the controversial keystone pipeline. they insinuated the report was the work of republican opposition groups. >> none of this has anything to do with the tragedy that occurred in benghazi. this is politics. that is shame. >> owning canadian stock is not a conflict but it could be a conflict if confirmed as secretary of state. they would need to sign off the pipeline project if it goes ahead. >> gregg: thanks. >> heather: closer look the real impact of the looming fiscal cliff. what means going over the edge means. >> is the world ignoring to the united states when it comes to the crisis in the middle east. why the latest dev
as part of clinton administration, they turned down from the sudanese government to arrest o lad bad. >> she is unable to admit she was wrong. she had taken a position that led to escape of a man that ultimately killed 3,000 americans. >> rice my also face trouble from the left. not because of her diplomatic record but because of her financial one. a group that she and her husband are said to be worth $20 million. they also hone oen a stock that is trying to build the controversial...
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clinton reiterated u.s. support for israel but condemned the move. >> let me reiterate that this administration, like previous administrations, has been very clear with israel, that these activities set back the cause of a negotiated peace. >> the israeli announcement come just hours after the u.n. voted overwhelmingly to grant palestine a non member observer status. nbc correspondent martin fletcher is live for us in tel aviv. martin what is the respect of this settlement announcement? do you think israel will really move forward with these plans? >> reporter: well, that's a good question, alex. they've announced these kinds of plans before, mostly to score political points publicly in this case, then really delayed things in the planning process and things haven't actually happened. i think this time there's a pretty clear need according to the israelis from what they feel to respond in some way to the palestinian's political success in the united nations general assembly. this is what they did. they annou
clinton reiterated u.s. support for israel but condemned the move. >> let me reiterate that this administration, like previous administrations, has been very clear with israel, that these activities set back the cause of a negotiated peace. >> the israeli announcement come just hours after the u.n. voted overwhelmingly to grant palestine a non member observer status. nbc correspondent martin fletcher is live for us in tel aviv. martin what is the respect of this settlement...
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we see the clinton administration in the 1990's, put an end for that. looking to the obama administration, what can the next secretary of state do to help the syrian people and such a critical time. >> thank you everybody for being here. i hope to see you next friday for our conference on jordan. thank you. [applause] >> tonight we will look at the white house and congress and how they are addressing the fiscal cliff. first president obama speaks in pennsylvania followed by house speaker john banner responding from capitol hill. then eric cantor response to the white house deficit reduction package. later, nancy pelosi addresses the fiscal cliff and middle- class tax cuts. tomorrow on ", washington "" robert -- "washington journal," robert van order on the mortgage loan forgiveness. adult'eman on being an with autism. plus, your emails, phone calls, and tweets. >> c-span, created by cable companies and venture 1979, brought to you as a public service by >> president obama talked about the so-called fiscal cliff and his proposal to end the bush era tax c
we see the clinton administration in the 1990's, put an end for that. looking to the obama administration, what can the next secretary of state do to help the syrian people and such a critical time. >> thank you everybody for being here. i hope to see you next friday for our conference on jordan. thank you. [applause] >> tonight we will look at the white house and congress and how they are addressing the fiscal cliff. first president obama speaks in pennsylvania followed by house...